A Blog on Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu by Pedro Sauer Black Belt Keith Owen. BJJMOVES.COM
Saturday, May 4, 2013
My Response to How Dirty Kenpo Beats the BJJ Guard. Dirty Kenpo video included!
Please Watch This Video Before Reading This Blog!
How Dirty Kenpo Beats the BJJ Guard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l6xfvHEcLg
I have taught stand-up self-defense in my school as well as Gracie Jiu-Jitsu for the last 20 years. My stand-up background comes from old school Kenpo and JKD and I like to think I have a sizable amount of martial arts legal knowledge including being former law enforcement and one of the primary use of force and firearms instructors at my state police academy.
The thing that bothers me most about this video, aside from the lack of knowledge about what works in this particular scenario, is the proper use of force that should be applied in THIS self-defense ground fighting situation.
In our litigious society, gone are the days where a martial arts instructor can "proclaim" that students do whatever "they want" in a street fight without having to justify their reasoning behind it. It is now replaced with a new paradigm of "proper use of force" under rule of law. This means that whatever self-defense response you do is going to be given a good hard look by local law enforcement including how the encounter started, your fighting prowess (are you a black belt or MMA fighter?),the witness statements AND your responses to the encounter (whether you used too much force to stop the threat). There are also CIVIL penalties that can be brought to bear by the bad guy or the bad guy's family if you are prosecuted by law enforcement.
For all intents and purposes the "Guard" is categorized as a "Defensive Position." If YOU end up in someone's guard out on the street, chances are you were aggressive enough to put that person there in the first place, otherwise you would most likely end up on the bottom. Believe it or not, only idiots jump guard in the street. There are a number of easy and effective ways that a moderately trained fighter can use to escape the guard and simply stand back up on his feet and make an exit, otherwise he would then pass his opponent's guard and remain on top of the attacker.
The author of this video chose to use the most extreme (and one not so functional) ways of defeating his opponent. I typically see this from a few stand up martial artists who are "untrained" in ground fighting and who, not wanting to further their knowledge of the ground, always chose the, "I would just be the hammer to hit the nail" analogy of combat regardless of legal circumstances in a street fight. I see this a lot from Kenpo stylists who use a myriad of street lethal and great bodily harm technique against such things as a push or even a wrist grab, especially at low belt levels.
What they fail to realize is that using just a hammer does not build a house or in this case a proper self-defense foundation. These same instructors typically spend no time in talking to their students about the legal use of force considerations that can and should be used. In other words not every attack deserves an eye gouge. Lethal force (or great bodily harm) should only be used in certain perimeters under a narrow circumstance. I get this "Hammer" response from firearms instructors all the time who don't want to learn to fight. Everything is always "I would just shoot them."....really?
Back to Eye Gouging. Don't get me wrong, many people in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu don't appreciate the effectiveness of gouging someones eyes. My stand up instructors favorite saying was "A poke in the eye is worth a thousand words." The trouble is a poke in the eye is not the cure for every self-defense situation.
In this video the instructor seems to think that gouging an unarmed attacker in the eye is a "primary protocol." This WILL WORK but WHY is he using this from inside someone's guard? Are there multiple attackers? Does this person have a weapon? Doesn't the instructor have the skill set to do something less lethal? At the very least this video gives you NO explanation of "When" to use this technique. How do you know he is a BJJ guy? Did he tell you? Why didn't you train BJJ if you are so afraid and it's so effective? I'm so confused.
I would also add that getting at someone's eyes is a lot harder then it appears. We did numerous tests in groundfighting scenarios as instructors to see how easy it would be for someone to put a thumb or fingers ON someone's eyelids. The easiest position was from TOP mount and side control. The most difficult was from inside someone's guard where the person on their back can control hip movement, distance and can move their head around. Once the person on their back was aware of what the other person was doing then it was more than easy for them to launch an eye assault of their own because of the control of the guard. You are also exposing your arm to one of those pesky BJJ armbars too. You will only get this move on an inexperienced opponent from the guard position.
His second move was using the knee to strike "the groin." This actually is a coccyx strike or tailbone nerve attack. The groin is higher up and will not be reached unless the guy is an elephant. =) I have spent a fair amount of time physically analyzing the effectiveness of this move over the years because it has been previously taught at our police academy. This move WILL work on a non dedicated opponent with no ground skills whatsoever. Against a ground fighter of ANY respectable caliber or a dedicated opponent bent on your destruction you will not have a snowballs chance in hell of having the desired effect because they will fight through the pain. It isn't even more powerful then a punch to the face. I've tried this move on people and had it done to me with full force and couldn't break the guard open..No go.
His third move was finger breaking. This one is an olddy but a goodie by stand up guys. In theory, it should work pretty good but in reality (like an arm break) it doesn't have the desired affect against an adrenilized DEDICATED opponent. They will fight through the pain if there is any.
Another problem with this line of reasoning is that every BJJ guy who sticks around long enough will have the finger trick pulled on them a few times. It's not like it's a foreign move. I once had a guy do this to me when we were rolling and deliberately broke my index finger. I proceeded to get pissed and broke his finger. A finger for a finger right?
The last move he showed was "Rule #9" where he produced a knife and I think was NOT saying you should knife an unarmed opponent but that someone could knife you. Got it...that's probably the time you should eye gouge someone. I think mainly he wanted to show how cool he was when he took out his knife. Knives are cool. Baltimore Escape..RahRah.
I don't want people to think I'm all harping on everyone in Kenpo. It's my background too! I've harped on BJJ plenty of times. I'm just tired of a few stand up martial artists who WON'T take the time to legitimately incorporate some form of less than lethal, realistic ground defense into their curriculum in hopes of protecting their minimal ground knowledge. They repeat the same old tired defense cliches that they learned in the 80's and early 90's without regard to the legal ramifications (and effectiveness) of what they are doing in support of their badass "image" of being the hammer. Cops don't shoot every one they physically arrest in an altercation and martial arts instructors aren't required to hit someone in the throat from a lapel grab in every fight. You will go to jail.
That's the cool thing about Jiu-Jitsu, You can neutralize an attacker without having to kill or maim him! It's great self-defense in today's society!
The instructor in this video chose to attack bjj tournament guys like they are some how "helpless" in a fight. I think tournament guys might do ok in a street fight with the ground fighting knowledge you are presenting in your video sir and probably put you in a triangle that you haven't practiced against. I'm not sure why your picking on tournament guys...Pick on MMA guys too =).
In closing, I just couldn't stand by watching this video with the instructor actually thinking he had good answers for unsuspecting students. People will get sued and end up in jail over this video. I can't abide by that.
No Hard Feelings.
P.S. You can't justify your actions on information you learned later. Like.." I later found out this guy trained BJJ or MMA that's why I eye gouged him." You are only legally justified on what you know at the moment of the fight. Just sayin.
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Wednesday, April 24, 2013
The Slow and the Fast Way to Get Better in Jiu-Jitsu!
There are two ways to get Jiu-Jitsu knowledge...
For instance, you can stay in bottom side control and keep getting choked over and over and over again until you "accidentally" stumble on the right defense or you can do what very few people will do and simply ASK the instructor or another high ranking belt how to get out or how to fix their errors and save themselves ALOT of trouble and heartache. I know...that sounds obviously easy doesn't it?
The problem I see with the vast majority of students is they don't ask enough questions or even ANY at all. They might feel stupid...or intimidated...or they think they are bugging their instructor...OR they just don't think about it at the time. All of which can cause a longer learning process and the diminished chance to become better...quicker.
I promise you that if you will get a reputation for the person who is always asking sincere questions in class, your reputation will one day change to the person who is always kicking everyone's azz.
For instance, you can stay in bottom side control and keep getting choked over and over and over again until you "accidentally" stumble on the right defense or you can do what very few people will do and simply ASK the instructor or another high ranking belt how to get out or how to fix their errors and save themselves ALOT of trouble and heartache. I know...that sounds obviously easy doesn't it?
The problem I see with the vast majority of students is they don't ask enough questions or even ANY at all. They might feel stupid...or intimidated...or they think they are bugging their instructor...OR they just don't think about it at the time. All of which can cause a longer learning process and the diminished chance to become better...quicker.
I promise you that if you will get a reputation for the person who is always asking sincere questions in class, your reputation will one day change to the person who is always kicking everyone's azz.
Monday, March 11, 2013
Video: Keith Owen vs. Ryron Gracie.
This past week-end I attended two Ryron Gracie Seminars. Ryron is a 5th degree black belt, the
Grand Son of Helio Gracie and Co- owner of the Gracie Academy. My
friend Greg Gordon and I hosted Ryron at my school in Boise and I and several friends spent a 6
hour car ride with him for his second seminar at Pedro Sauer Black Belt Jared
Emfield’s School in Idaho Falls Idaho.
It was quite an honor to spend the time with Ryron and get a
better sense of his Jiu-Jitsu philosophy.
We had a ton of questions for him ranging from what Grand Master Helio
was like to the Metamoris Tournament to
rolling with many famous people. It was
a great time!
The one thing that I got out of these seminars besides some
great moves was some validation of my Professor, Pedro Sauer’s brand of
Jiu-Jitsu. Ryron uses the term “Keep it
Playful” to describe his style of rolling.
Professor Sauer has said the same thing many times to his students
including feeling free to liberally tap when you want to and not having a death
match or prove anything every time you roll.
He also pointed out that you don’t have to always attack and you can merely
defend until your opponent literally forces you to take a pass or a submission. Ryron and I are very similar in philosophy in
that aspect. When I mentioned that to
him he seemed a bit shocked like “Wow, not very many people are like that.”
Ryron likes to roll with people at his seminar and made it
clear that he didn’t really care what your belt color was. I decided to step up and try my hand at
rolling with a Gracie (Roy Dean did as well).
The cool thing about Ryron was that he wasn’t afraid to tap to show case his skill at Keeping it
Playful. He didn't really care.
I however, came out on the tapping end of this deal but
watching us roll you can tell that we were trying our best to use the technique
and the attitude of ” Keeping it Playful.” He and I could have turned it up
another 50%, but really, why? We wanted
to use the purest of technique we could and there is no way I’m going to insult
a Gracie by using brute force to “try” to overcome technique. My only regret is that we didn’t train for another
hour, it was so much fun!
The last thing I would like to say about Ryron is he is such
a trash talker! I say that in a light -hearted way because he
is trying to get into my head the whole time…that didn’t work…but I can see how
it could for others. I‘ve been around
the block a time or two and tried to verbally turn it around on him…Good Times!
Keith Owen vs. Ryron Gracie-Keepin it Playful!
At around the one minute mark you hear him say “take it” on
my submission attempt. I say “I don’t want to”..lol
Keith Owen on Playing
Jiu-Jitsu. Listen around the 8:15 mark to hear me talk about playing in Jiu-Jitsu from a seminar I did in June 2009. This is what Professor Sauer taught us and mirrors Ryron's philosophy.
Tapping 10,000 Times from a June 2009 Seminar
Ryron Gracie's Blog keepitplayful.com
Keepitplayful.com
Ryron Gracie's Blog keepitplayful.com
Keepitplayful.com
Friday, March 1, 2013
Video: How to Get More Women into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu!
Here is my new video "reacting" to all the reaction from certain women
concerning my recent blog post.
My Previous Blog Post that caused all the fuss.
I got a
lot of comments from this, a LOT of positives and a LOT of negatives including
a couple death threats. Good thing I am pro gun and can defend myself(another
reason to hate me)…Check it out if you dare.
My New Video about all the criticism.
Friday, February 15, 2013
Wednesday, February 6, 2013
The Science of Skill
This weeks blog is someone else s blog interviewing me. Check it out!
Science of Skill Article on Keith Owen.
Here is my new video from Submissions 101 on how to improve your cross choke as well!
The Cobra Cross Collar Choke!
Sunday, January 13, 2013
CREONTE!!
This is a very difficult topic for me to blog on especially
from an American Jiu-Jitsu instructor perspective. In
America team loyalty is important BUT students leave their instructors for
various reasons all the time. Are they wrong? Not necessarily.
I have thought long and hard about this issue before giving
my thoughts because I'm torn…but here goes.
A “Creonte” is a
Brazilian term that derived its meaning from a Brazilian soap opera where one
of the main characters would constantly switch allegiances with the other characters.
This term carried over to BJJ to mean that a “high level” student leaves a
school he or she is training at to go train with a rival team, in essence becoming
a “traitor”.
Before the popularity of the internet training academies
would literally have secret moves that they used against rival schools. In many
cases the instructor took a poor kid off the street and trained them for free
as a future champion, only to see that student go into the hands of the “Enemy.” To
lose a top level student to another academy was a disastrous proposition. I
would personally say that this is a moral character defect on the part of the student
and I would hope that Karma would pay him back one day.
In America things seem to be a bit different in the sense
that most students pay a fee to train at a specific academy. This is mostly a business transaction here in America and
thus as customers they are free to go and train at whatever school they desire.
Many do so because they live closer to the
other school, or want to pay a cheaper fee or they don't like the other
students, they might be getting hurt too much, the instructor could be a
dishonest person or they don’t do tournament training or they DO do tournament
training or heaven forbid, the school might just be better than the one they
were at. Does that make them a traitor? If you’re the instructor I’m sure it would be
“Yes”, in my mind, again, not necessarily.
This is especially true if the student is a LOWER level
student who might have just found his first school by accident. He knew nothing
about BJJ and he decided that the schools logo was cool and that’s why he
decided to train there. Does he have a
right to go somewhere else if he wants? You
bet.
What I don’t accept is a medium to high level student who
has been training for years, proclaiming to love his school, the people, the
instructor and the training who for one reason or another decides to leave to
better himself through another
instructor’s promises of quick belt promotions, teaching opportunities or
promises of free tuition. I refer to
this kind of student as “a piece of crap”, in other words a Creonte. It’s happened to me before including taking some of my
students with him! What are you to do?
If you are an
instructor who has experienced this as I have you need to turn the focus back
on you and ask yourself (as I did) some fundamental questions, Am I really
giving the VERY best classes I can? Am I up on the latest techniques of
Jiu-Jitsu? Do I really want my students better than me? Am I doing my best to make my students
succeed? Am I fair in my promotions? Am
I NOT playing favorites with some students at the expense of others?
If you can answer all of these questions in
the affirmative then the fault probably lies in the student and not you. It still hurts though.
Take a good hard look at your students. If they are people with low morals, long criminal
records and bad attitudes then what are you expecting from these types of
people? Loyalty? Really? If they are good,honest people, are you giving
them opportunities to shine, to teach, help the school and consequently
themselves? It’s only right.
If you’re a student you need to show loyalty to your
instructor! Look very hard at your
motives before deciding to leave your current instructor. Talk to your instructor first! In many cases, the grass is
not always greener on the other side. If
you do leave an excellent instructor because of selfish and disloyal motives (in your heart you know)
then be prepared to wear the moniker of “Creonte.” You deserve it.
I heard a saying that goes like this “If your best friend
borrows 20 bucks, promises to pay you back and then skips town…Wasn’t that a
cheap price to get rid of a bad friend?”
Better to not have given that
disloyal student a black belt from your linage because he will be your black belt for life. I promise you that you will be better off with
that student gone. I know
I was.
P.S. If you are a student who trains at two different BJJ academies without the knowledge of both instructors then you are a "Creonte." Pick a school and be loyal.
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